Nibbana

[Gena1480]

Nibbana
is nither existance nor non existance
again
why is it so hard to understand
that Nibbana is not arising and not cessation
there is no
dependinging origination in Nibbana
there is no
there is this
there is that
in Nibbana
there
no cause and no effect in Nibbana
the dimension of peace and freedom form everything.
free from birth from egg
free from birth from womb
free from birth from mind
free from birth from mental
free from brith from metirieal
free from five aggregates.
free from lay life
free from holy life.
free from suffering
free from samsara.
free from birth from consioussness
free from birth from
Nibbana is free from impermanance
NIbbana is free from Sufffering
Nibbana is free from self
Nibbana is free from non-self
now free from non-self is hard to understand
non-self is non arising
while nibbana is non arising and non ceasing
thats for explanation purpose
but it is free from non arising and free from arising
which means samething non arising and non ceasing.
when you reach your goal.
you holy life is finished. what part you friends dont understand.
forget about how it sounds to you, and what it means to you
just go ahead and test it to see what is it.
as for the other question.
fire element is base for lots of thing, like passion and lust,
you cant use water element to cease fire.
fire elment has characteristic of aging body.
it has charactaristics of chagning, or aging the body
water element is to hold bodies together.
when you use fire element to age bones for example
fire element heat bones and brakes the bodies of cells in bones
when old bodies brake and change, space chages and bodies take new form
when taking the new form water element hold the new bodies together.
so you see you cant use water element.
when bodies brake up,you notice brake up of solid form
and understand that whater element braking up
andn when new form has taking place you notice new water element, solidify the form.
i wrote this to the best of my understanding.
metta. if i made mistake, you are welcome to fix it.

[stuka]

[Yeshe]

if i made mistake, you are welcome to fix it.

i know what i'm doing and thats enough

You think you know what you are doing?

That's the mistake which needs to be fixed. Find a teacher.

[Gena1480]

why do you think its a mistake.

[Yeshe]

why do you think its a mistake.

Because all I ever read from you is a disjointed rambling account of 'visions' which relate to nothing at all in Buddhadharma.

You hallucinate and then convince yourself you have achieved something.

From what I read, all you have achieved is the creation of a fantasy. In particular, you claim attainments but post nothing which supports it. One of your most ridiculous claims was to have used a book on Highest Yoga Tantra to claim such attainments.

These words may appear harsh, but I really do think you should abandon this and find a good teacher and/or enter a monastery. That should help you to 'fix' things.

[gotamo]

Hi buddhis

you can write a lot of things being said about nibbanam.The most important sentence of Pali-Canon is:"Nothing is here any more."
We tend to interprete nothing as the absence from matter. But you can think further: Why this way, see it from the point where nothing is any more , not any kind of matter.

Think Nibbanam is anly of the steps to enlightenment. After enlightenment there are still some
pathes but this one must be done by yxourself.
The teacing of the Elevated One is a tool, to change your concsiousness, no interpretation of the world

love, pity and compassion

gotamo

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